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	[[{{ROOTPAGENAME}}]] is a {{C\|Isengard}} [[Minion]] from the [[Battle of Helm's Deep]] set.		[[{{ROOTPAGENAME}}]] is a {{C\|Isengard}} [[Minion]] from the [[Battle of Helm's Deep]] set.

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 Grima, Chief Counselor is a splash minion, often used as a counter to multi-cultural decks. Although multi-cultural fellowships are not inherently overpowered, there are some combos players can use that make such fellowships very difficult to beat. The effect of his ability is fairly similar to Wormtongue; he returns cards to hand, which greatly restricts card flow and makes more twilight the subsequent turn. However, a major advantage of this Grima is his ability to return up to 2 companions to hand, which often leads to a RB overwhelm unless the Fellowship is incredibly large. Note that when you are spotting 4 cultures you need only spot a card of that culture, such as a condition or ally - you don't necessarily have to spot companions of 4 cultures. This can often be used to your advantage; if your opponent has 4 cultures and you can return a companion to hand, but still spot a card of that companion's culture, you can then return another companion to hand. This Grima is particularly effective in The Two Towers because the opponent will always have the [shire] culture, even though Frodo is often the only hobbit. In subsequent sets, alternate Ring-Bearers often allow players to ensure their fellowship is at most 3 cultures. The counters to deal with Wormtongue are all effective against Chief Counselor, but often the easiest solution is not to use 4 cultures, as it's not really necessary in most decks. The exception to this is the Three Hunters + Frodo, but this is only a problem in The Two Towers, since thereafter you can use alternate Ring-Bearers.
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| TLHHImage=LOTR05051
| WikiImage=LOTR05051
| SetNum=05
| CardNum=051
| SetName=Battle of Helm's Deep
| Side=Shadow
| Culture=Isengard
| Twilight=2
| FullCardType=Minion • Man
| Stat1Name=Strength
| Stat1=4
| Stat2Name=Vitality
| Stat2=3
| Stat3Name=Site Number
| Stat3=3
| Stat4Name=
| Stat4=
| GameText=Maneuver: Spot 4 Free Peoples cultures and exert Grima to return an unbound companion, and all cards on him or her, to their owners? hands.
| Lore=“‘I care for you and yours as best I may.... Let others deal with these irksome guests.'”
| Rarity=R
| Notes=
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= General Strategy =

Grima, Chief Counselor is a splash minion, often used as a counter to multi-cultural decks. Although multi-cultural fellowships are not inherently overpowered, there are some combos players can use that make such fellowships very difficult to beat. The effect of his ability is fairly similar to Wormtongue; he returns cards to hand, which greatly restricts card flow and makes more twilight the subsequent turn. However, a major advantage of this Grima is his ability to return up to 2 companions to hand, which often leads to a RB overwhelm unless the Fellowship is incredibly large. Note that when you are spotting 4 cultures you need only spot a card of that culture, such as a condition or ally - you don't necessarily have to spot companions of 4 cultures. This can often be used to your advantage; if your opponent has 4 cultures and you can return a companion to hand, but still spot a card of that companion's culture, you can then return another companion to hand. This Grima is particularly effective in The Two Towers because the opponent will always have the [shire] culture, even though Frodo is often the only hobbit. In subsequent sets, alternate Ring-Bearers often allow players to ensure their fellowship is at most 3 cultures. The counters to deal with Wormtongue are all effective against Chief Counselor, but often the easiest solution is not to use 4 cultures, as it's not really necessary in most decks. The exception to this is the Three Hunters + Frodo, but this is only a problem in The Two Towers, since thereafter you can use alternate Ring-Bearers.

= Strengths and Weaknesses =

=== Strong Versus... ===

* Multi-Cultural/Multi-Racial Fellowships
* Small Fellowships
* Gandalf, FotS
* The Nine Walkers
* Fellowships with splashed cards, such as Elrond, HtGG

=== Weak Versus... ===

* Maneuver Wounding and card discard - see Grima, Wormtongue

= Extra Information =
== Other Versions of Grima ==

* [[lotr00102|Footman of Saruman (P)]]
* [[lotr04153|Son of Galmod]]
* [[lotr04154|Wormtongue]]
* [[lotr04154t|Wormtongue (T)]]
* [[lotr12068|Betrayer of Rohan]]
* [[lotr12f07|Betrayer of Rohan (F)]]
* [[lotr13092|Footman of Saruman]]
* [[lotr18067|Witless Worm]]
* [[lotr19016|Servant of Another Master]]

== Other Prints of Grima, Chief Counselor ==

* [[lotr05m02|Battle of Helm's Deep (M)]]